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sakiss
20-04-05, 11:38
Το italiaspeed εχει τις πρωτες φωτογραφιες του Croma στον δρομο...Απλα ''Κουκλι''....με ποιοτητα κατασκευης που θυμιζει το παρελθον των γερμανων....τοτε που η VW-Bmw δεν ειχαν κανει σημαια τους το πλαστικο οπως σημερα!

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sakiss
20-04-05, 11:38
Fiat presents the new Croma, an evolution of the Station Wagon concept, which will be on the market in the Summer.

•generous interior roominess for outstanding comfort
•technological innovation in the field of diesel engines
•superior quality for a mass produced model

The Fiat Group has set numerous records in the field of diesel cars, starting with the Croma TDI which was the world's first direct injection diesel car back in 1986.

The new Croma is offered with 5 different gearboxes to exploit the performance of its engines in full; all the engines meet EU Stage 4 emissions standards, and the diesel units are fitted with particulate filters. All the petrol engines are combined with 5-speed transmissions, with the option of the sequential automatic transmission on the 2.2 16v, and all the diesel engines have 6-speed gearboxes (the sequential automatic unit is offered as an alternative on the 150 bhp 1.9 Multijet, and as the standard unit on the powerful 200 bhp 2.4 Multijet 20v).

Panoramic sunroof

The Fiat Croma is made all the more enjoyable by the optional large opening sunroof (approximately 1.5 m2); this sunroof covers up almost the entire area of the roof and comprises two glass panels: a fixed rear panel and an electrically opening front panel. Inside there are two sunshades that slide independently towards the rear of the car.
The panoramic sunroof gives occupants a completely new relationship with the surrounding environment, enjoying the luminosity and the sense of freedom that this large glazed surface provides. When the driver wants more light inside, the system lets him keep the sunroof closed but the blind underneath open. If, on the other hand, he likes the feeling of driving "in the open", the front glazed panel and sunblind can be opened completely in just seven seconds, to produce a real "window onto the sky".

Braking system

In line with the high active safety targets, the new Croma is equipped with highly effective, extremely modular braking systems.
First of all, the braking system incorporates the most sophisticated electronic and mechanical aids - ABS, EBD, ESP, HBA (with ESP) and a Hill-holder (with ESP) - and it is of the power-assisted hydraulic type, with 2 independent cross-over circuits (each circuit controls one front wheel and the diagonally opposite rear wheel) to guarantee braking and stability even if one circuit should fail.
The entire range is equipped with discs all round, ventilated at the front (and at the rear on the Multijet 1.9 16v and 2.4 20v versions). Because of the different weights and power deliveries of the various engines, the braking systems also vary.

Class-beating safety

The outstanding level of safety on the Croma is guaranteed by structural measures designed to ensure that the passenger compartment cell will not deform in a crash, by a standard outfit of 7 airbags and by active safety devices that include ABS and ESP.

Passive safety

In this context, the Fiat Auto engineers have analysed all possible types of accident (head-on and side-on impact, overturning, nose-to-tail and fire), taking into account the different speeds at which a crash may occur, the different types of obstacle and the protection of occupants with very different physical characteristics. Some facts and figures that underline the enormous commitment that the company put into making the new Croma one of the safest cars in its segment: 18,000 hours of calculation, 120 crash tests, 100 crash simulations on a HyGe sled, 200 tests on components and subsystems, 10 new types of performance specifications and test procedures, 8 co-design suppliers with specific structures for passive safety (2 of whom were involved exclusively in the design and development of the safety devices).
The tests performed developed a crumple-zone cell to protect passengers in a head-on impact: the front structure is made up of 3 longitudinal load lines comprising front struts of high yield material, a mechanical frame in the lower part and 2 further small beams level with the wing that deform to block the stress from the upper part of the vehicle.
The magnesium crossbeam positioned between the two front pillars under the facia, guarantees a strong link between the pillars and with the floor, which it is connected by two steel reinforcements. This architecture contributes significantly to preventing deformation in the whole front part of the passenger compartment during both head-on and lateral impact. It also acts as a support structure for the steering column, and minimises the tendency of the steering wheel to retract and rear up in all types of frontal impact.
Structural changes were introduced to the following to protect occupants in a side impact:
• the central pillar, made of sheet metal with a very high structural resistance and filled with structural foam in the area of greatest flexion. This means that the pillar transfers most of the impact force to the sill and the roof frame;
• the floor, adding 2 seat crossbeams that unload some of the impact force on the opposite side of the car;
• the roof, inserting a transverse strut near the 2 central pillars;
• the doors, inserting a boxed crossbeam in the waist area and longitudinal bars made of material with a very high structural resistance. For rear impact, particularly at low speed, the presence of a "crash box" crossbeam that is screwed in place guarantees limited damage and easy repairs. What is more, to ensure that the fuel supply system is not damaged, the structure was successfully subjected to the test envisaged by the strict Japanese legislation. The structural efficiency of the bodyshell was obtained in part thanks to the use of special steel for over 40% of the weight.
Where restraint systems are concerned, the Croma offers:
• 2 dual stage front airbags (standard); when impact is of medium intensity, the electronic control unit only activates the first stage of the airbags, preventing the influx of energy that is not necessary to protect the occupant. But with very strong impact, the control unit activates both stages to absorb the occupant's high kinetic energy before he or she hits the steering wheel or the facia;
• front seat-belts with pre-tensioners and load limiters;
• decentralised supplementary sensors in the engine bay to detect head-on impact. These deceleration sensors (ECS - Early Crash Sensor) are positioned on the ends of the headlight crossbeam, near the light clusters, and they help the main electronic control unit to speed up airbag activation compared to a conventional system, particularly in the event of offset impact;
• driver's side knee airbag (standard): the area under the steering column has always been the most dangerous for the knees, but it is rendered innocuous both by the use of the knee-bag and by an electric steering lock, which has allowed the ignition key to be moved from its usual position on the side of the steering column to a characteristic position on the central tunnel console. Polypropylene foam energy absorbers have also been adopted to protect the steering column and the adjacent fusebox;
• a "passive" anti-whiplash device on the front head restraints, made up of a "rocker arm" mechanism, that acts between the upper part of the squab and the head restraint itself. In the event of a rear impact this exploits the thrust of the occupant's back on the seat squab to move the head restraint forward, this further reducing the horizontal distance between the head restraint and the passenger's neck compared to the static condition defined by the styling;
• front seat-belt sensors (Seat-belt reminder);
• manual switch to disengage the passenger airbag;
• front side airbags (standard); they are of the chest type and together with the door panels they protect critical parts of the body such as the ribs and abdomen. Installing them in the seats is a guarantee of greater efficiency at all times;
• curtain-bags (standard): they are activated together with the sidebags, and they inflate between the occupant and the side of the car, preventing the head from coming into contact with highly intrusive objects. Because they inflate from the front pillar towards the luggage compartment, curtain-bags protect both front and rear passengers;
• rear side airbags (optional): the sidebags are of the chest type and together with the door panels they protect critical parts of the body such as the ribs and abdomen. Installing them on the sides of the seat squabs always guarantees maximum protection at all times.
Active safety
The new Fiat Croma is fitted with the most sophisticated electronic and mechanical active safety systems:
• ABS: anti-wheel lock system.
• EBD: electronic brake effort distribution.
• ESP: active control of the longitudinal and transverse dynamics of the vehicle.
On versions powered by the 147, 150 and 200 bhp engines, ESP is standard equipment and includes the following supplementary systems:
• ASR: limits drive wheel slip when accelerating, to prevent power oversteer or understeer and improve acceleration when surface grip is poor.
• MSR: prevents engine lock when decelerating, opens and closes the throttle valve, gradually adapting the braking effort of the engine to the situation at a given moment.
• HBA: electronic hydraulic braking assistant, which automatically increases the pressure of the braking circuit during panic braking.
• Hill-holder: an automatic device to release the brakes after a hill stop.
The sophisticated ESP device (Electronic Stability Program) intervenes when conditions are close to the limit, when the car's stability is at risk, to help the driver to control the car. ESP constantly monitors tyre grip on the road, both longitudinally and laterally, and if it detects a tendency to skid, the system intervenes to recover direction and stability. Sensors measure the rotation of the car around its vertical axis (yaw speed), the lateral acceleration and the steering lock set by the driver (which indicates his chosen direction). It compares these data with the parameters processed by computer and uses a complex mathematical model to establish whether the car is taking a corner within the grip limits, or if it is about to skid at the front or the rear (understeer or oversteer). To recover the correct trajectory, the system generates a yaw contrary to the one that is causing the instability, braking the relevant wheel (inside or outside) individually and reducing the engine power (by adjusting the throttle valve). This is the peculiar feature of the device developed for the Fiat Croma. The brake adjustments are modulated so that they are as smooth as possible (and will not disturb the driver) and the reduction in engine power is also limited, to guarantee excellent performance at all times and superbly enjoyable driving. The ESP system is always engaged.

The Hill Holder is an integral part of the ESP device, assisting the driver on hill starts. It intervenes when the ESP control unit detects a change in the inclination of the car through the longitudinal acceleration sensor on the floor under the passenger seat. During a hill start, the control unit prepares to cut in when first gear is engaged and the clutch and brake pedals are depressed. The pressure on the front callipers is maintained for about 1.5 seconds after the brake pedal is released, allowing the driver to set off more easily.

On downhill starts with first gear engaged, the Hill Holder is not activated. The same is true for hill starts in which reverse is engaged: downhill the system is activated, whereas uphill it is not activated.

Διαστασεις
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Ενδεικτικες Τιμες Ιταλια
1,8-140hp MPI, 22,400 euro
2,2-150hp MPI, 22,700 euro

1,9-120hp Multijet, 23,200 euro
1,9-150hp Multijet 16V,24,700 euro
2,4-200hp Multijet 20V, 29,800 euro.

ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ
20-04-05, 16:49
δεν πρεοκειται να πουλησει δυστυχως........τα στεισον ειναι εκτος αγορας στην ελλαδσα δυστυχως...

Nenya
20-04-05, 16:52
sorry αλλα γιατι το δευτερο ποιοτικο δειγμα μετα το panta?? το stilo δεν ειναι ποιοτικο δειγμa ??? :evil:

ThoDoriS
20-04-05, 16:56
δεν πρεοκειται να πουλησει δυστυχως........τα στεισον ειναι εκτος αγορας στην ελλαδσα δυστυχως...

Χμ εμένα πάντως το Croma δεν μου κάνει για station.... :roll:

ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ
20-04-05, 17:02
Ειναι στο πατωμα της opel του vectra αν δεν κανω λαθος........
καλα θοδωρη θα το δουμε τα αποτελεσματα του.....

john_stil
20-04-05, 22:16
sorry αλλα γιατι το δευτερο ποιοτικο δειγμα μετα το panta?? το stilo δεν ειναι ποιοτικο δειγμa ??? :evil:

ΔΕΝ ΜΕΤΡΑΝΕ ΜΟΝΟ ΤΑ ΠΛΑΣΤΙΚΑ ΣΤΟ ΤΑΜΠΛΟ ΑΝ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΜΑΛΑΚΑ ΄Η ΟΧΙ....

ΤΟ ΘΕΜΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΝΑ ΜΗΝ ΣΟΥ ΚΑΙΓΟΝΤΑΙ Π Ρ Α Γ Μ Α Τ Α ΜΕΣΑ ΣΤΟ ΚΙΝΗΤΗΡΑ!!!!!

sakiss
20-04-05, 23:27
Einai to deutero poiotiko deigma dioti einai kataskeuasmeno opos kai to panta me ta iaponika protipa....to stilo exei kapoia poiotika meri kai einai apo ta pio aksiopista tis katigorias alla to panda exei apsogo finirisma,kaliteri sinarmogi kai kataskeuazetai sto neo ergostasio stin polonia opou ta perisotera meri ginontai rompotika kai ligotero xeirotexnika.Oi kinitires einai kainourioi Mpi(amesos psekasmos) kai ksexaste ta plastika meri se olo to esoteriko ektos toy tamplo....sto croma isxiei to antitheto..gi'auto kai oi tsimpimenes times...Kai ego stilo exo alla anagnorizo oti to panda einai pio poiotiko autokinito.H platforma nai men proerxetai apo to signum alla osoi to odigisan dilosan oti den exei kamia sxesi me opel....oi italoi to exoun prosarmosei sta dika tous stantar...akoma kai otan ipirxe i sinergasia Fiat-Gm powertrain oi italoi pote den epairnan ipopsin tous tis texnikes tous gnoseis kai epeidi ousiastika to Groupo-Gm den ekane tipota to elegan eironika Fiat Powertarain.

sakiss
20-04-05, 23:35
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http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/5005/99.jpg
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http://www.thecarlounge.net/gallery/albums//Events/International%20Auto%20Shows/Geneva/2005/Fiat/005.jpg
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sakiss
21-04-05, 00:06
Merikes akoma apolaustikes photos...

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ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ
21-04-05, 08:25
οι ιταλοι ειναι ιταλοι...δεν μπορει αν συγριθουν στην φινετσα......

sakiss
21-04-05, 13:52
Times italy

1.8 Mpi 16v 140cv Active 21.950,00
1.8 Mpi 16v 140cv Dynamic 23.090,00
2.2 Mpi 16v 147cv Active 22.700,00
2.2 Mpi 16v 147cv Dynamic 23.840,00
2.2 Mpi 16v 147cv Emotion 25.050,00
2.2 Mpi 16v 147cv aut. Dynamic 25.240,00
2.2 Mpi 16v 147cv aut. Emotion 26.450,00
1.9 Mjt 8v 120cv Active 23.200,00
1.9 Mjt 8v 120cv Dynamic 24.340,00
1.9 Mjt 8v 120cv Emotion 25.550,00
1.9 Mjt 16v 150cv Active 24.700,00
1.9 Mjt 16v 150cv Dynamic 25.840,00
1.9 Mjt 16v 150cv Dynamic Skyline 27.050,00
1.9 Mjt 16v 150cv Emotion 27.050,00
1.9 Mjt 16v 150cv Must 28.750,00
1.9 Mjt 16v 150cv aut. Dynamic 27.240,00
1.9 Mjt 16v 150cv aut. Dynamic Skyline 28.450,00
1.9 Mjt 16v 150cv aut. Emotion 28.450,00
1.9 Mjt 16v 150cv aut. Must 30.150,00
2.4 Mjt 20v 200cv aut. Emotion 29.800,00
2.4 Mjt 20v 200cv aut. Must 31.500,00

tzagarakis
21-04-05, 14:58
Εμενα μου φαινετε, οτι πολυμορφιζει & δυστυχως,ολα θα πολυμορφιζουν σε λιγο καιρο.

sakiss
25-04-05, 14:57
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http://www.automobilismo.it/edisport/automobilismo/gallery.nsf/HFoto/FiatCromaFoto11FotoGrande/$file/11.jpg

sakiss
28-04-05, 22:24
xlidi!

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sakiss
29-04-05, 11:03
Δίνει νέο Croma στην κατηγορία
http://www.autotriti.gr/_NEA/preview_news.asp?CATEGORY_id=27&NEWS_DATA_ID=33810

stilovatis
01-05-05, 03:04
Fiat Croma
25/04/2005













Περισσότερα από δέκα χρόνια μεσολάβησαν από τότε που η γκάμα της Fiat διέθετε το Croma. Ένα μοντέλο που ανήκε στην μεσαία κατηγορά. Η Fiat κάνει εκ νέου ένα νέο ξεκίνημα στην κατηγορία επαναφέροντας το Croma. Το σύγχρονο μοντέλο διαθέτει διαφορετική φιλοσοφία και οι άνθρωποι της ιταλικής εταιρείας επισημαίνουν ότι δεν ανήκει σε καμία από τις παραδοσιακές κατηγορίες. Μάλιστα τον τύπο του αμαξώματος τον προσδιορίζουν ως Comfort Wagon.


Στην πράξη πάντως είναι ένα ψηλό (1,60 μ.) στέισον. Η εξωτερική εμφάνιση που υπογράφεται από τον Guigiaro δεν διαθέτει κάποια αισθητική ιδιαιτερότητα. Τα στοιχεία που κυριαρχούν στην εμφάνισή του φωτιστικά σώματα η ευμεγέθης μάσκα εμπρός, οι έντονες αψίδες των φτερών και το πίσω μέρος που θυμίζει έντονα το Seat Ibiza. Στο εσωτερικό, τώρα τα πράγματα κινούνται ανάλογα. Απλός σχεδιασμός, χωρίς κάτι το ιδιαίτερο. Από εκεί και πέρα ο επιλογέας τοποθετημένος σχετικά ψηλά στην κονσόλα και η σχετικά ψηλή θέση οδήγησης δίνουν μια χροιά MPV στην αίσθηση του οδηγού ενώ ο πίνακας οργάνων από το Stilo (με ελαφρώς διαφορετική γραμματοσειρά) είναι ένα στοιχείο που δεν κολακεύει εφόσον πρόκειται για ένα νέο μοντέλο.


Η επισήμανση από τους υπεύθυνους της ιταλικής εταιρείας ότι το Croma είναι ένα από τα καλύτερα κατασκευασμένα Fiat δεν απέχει από την πραγματικότητα. Τα υλικά που χρησιμοποιούνται είναι ποιοτικά η συναρμογή σίγουρα προσεγμένη. Το σημείο που το Croma ξεχωρίζει είναι οι χώροι. Μεγάλο εσωτερικό ύψος, ικανό φάρδος και σημαντικά περιθώρια για τα γόνατα των πίσω επιβατών θα προσφέρουν άνεση σε δυο ή τρεις επιβάτες στο πίσω κάθισμα που μπορεί να θεωρηθεί ανάμεσα στις κορυφαίες της κατηγορίας.


Από τεχνολογική σκοπιά το Croma είναι χτισμένο στην πλατφόρμα E της GM όπως και οι δυο επιλογές βενζινοκινητήρων στα 1,8 και στα 2,2 λίτρα που αποδίδουν 140 και 147 ίππους στην προκειμένη περίπτωση. Στο δρόμο τα χαρακτηριστικά του Croma είναι η πολύ καλή ποιότητα κύλισης η άνεση, το ιδιαίτερα χαμηλό επίπεδο θορύβου στο ταξίδι αλλά και οι έντονες κλίσεις στις στροφές, το τιμόνι με την ηλεκτροϋδραυλική υποβοήθηση που σε τίποτα δεν θυμίζει το Stilo και τα φρένα που σε πρώτο επίπεδο έχουν καλή αίσθηση αλλά σε έντονο φρενάρισμα η απόδοση δεν είναι η αναμενόμενη._Σ.Σ.

MAFIA
03-05-05, 21:02
συγγνωμη στα 1800 κυβικα αποδιδει 140 ιππους και στα 2200cc αποδιδει 7 αλογα παραπανω?
και δεν του βαζω μια φιλτροοχανη?

sakiss
04-05-05, 14:31
http://automobile.nouvelobs.com/mag/050425/croma/default.asp

http://automobile.nouvelobs.com/mag/050425/croma/galerie.asp

sakiss
04-05-05, 23:06
1.8 Mpi 140 Cv Active n.d. n.d. n.d. 21.950
1.8 Mpi 140 Cv Dynamic n.d. n.d. n.d. 23.090
2.2 Mpi 147 Cv Active 210 km/h 10,1 s. 11,6 km/l 22.700
2.2 Mpi 147 Cv Dynamic 210 km/h 10,1 s. 11,6 km/l 23.840
2.2 Mpi 147 Cv Emotion 210 km/h 10,1 s. 11,6 km/l 25.050
1.9 Mjt 120 Cv Active 195 km/h 11,3 s. 16,4 km/l 23.200
1.9 Mjt 120 Cv Dynamic 195 km/h 11,3 s. 16,4 km/l 24.340
1.9 Mjt 120 Cv Emotion 195 km/h 11,3 s. 16,4 km/l 25.550
1.9 Mjt 150 Cv Active 210 km/h 9,6 s. 16,4 km/l 24.700
1.9 Mjt 150 Cv Dynamic 210 km/h 9,6 s. 16,4 km/l 25.840
1.9 Mjt 150 Cv Emotion 210 km/h 9,6 s. 16,4 km/l 27.050
1.9 Mjt 150 Cv Must 210 km/h 9,6 s. 16,4 km/l 28.750
2.4 Mjt 200 Cv Emotion 216 km/h 8,5 s. 12,5 km/l 29.800
2.4 Mjt 200 Cv Must 216 km/h 8,5 s. 12,5 km/l

sakiss
13-05-05, 18:30
It's the best big Fiat for many years....test drive 4car

http://www.channel4.com/4car/road-tests/F/fiat/croma05-/croma05-.html

ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ
13-05-05, 18:57
Μολις ερθει θα το φερω στο πρωτο meeting.....!!!!!!να το χαζεψουμε ολοι μαζι....την πρωτη τεταρτη...

john_stil
13-05-05, 19:00
Κωνσταντινε οταν και αμα γινεται φυσικα.... να ειμαστε παρον στην επισημη παρουσιαση του στην Ελλαδα απο την Fiat ως Stiloclub... για να κανουμε και μπουγιο!!!!

ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ
13-05-05, 19:17
Ναι γιαννη θα παρετε ολοι προσκληση.....(ευχαριστω john-ξερεις εσυ)....να θα κανουμε και διαφημιση για το club...Οι προσκεκλημενοι δεν θα ξαναδουν τοσα stilo μαζι.....φανταζεστε την φατσα τους??????? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

john_stil
13-05-05, 19:24
Οι προσκεκλημενοι δεν θα ξαναδουν τοσα stilo μαζι.....φανταζεστε την φατσα τους??????? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

MOY AΡΕΣΕΙ ΚΑΙ ΝΑ ΤΟ ΑΚΟΥΩ ΚΑΙ ΝΑ ΤΟ ΒΛΕΠΩ....

ThoDoriS
13-05-05, 21:16
Επ μην με ξεχάσετε εμένα.....

ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ
14-05-05, 08:21
Καταλαβες οτι θα εχει φαι????α ρε θοδωρη τι θα σε κανουμε?????

john_stil
14-05-05, 09:10
Για τον προσεχή Σεπτέμβριο ορίστηκε η έναρξη των πωλήσεων της νέας Alfa 159. Από τον Ιούνιο, ωστόσο, θα αρχίσουμε να ακούμε όλο και περισσότερα για αυτήν. Ο μήνας θα ξεκινήσει με μία διαφημιστική καμπάνια (κυρίως μέσω Internet) για τον ερχομό της. Την δεύτερη εβδομάδα του Ιουνίου θα οριστικοποιηθεί ο τιμοκατάλογος της (+7% από τις τιμές της 156).
Στα μέσα Ιουνίου θα γίνει η επίσημη παρουσίασή της στον Τύπο και τους εκπροσώπους του...

και για την 159.... μην ξεχνιομαστε....

ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ
14-05-05, 09:23
κατι θα κανουμε.....και για αυτην..

ThoDoriS
14-05-05, 13:46
Μπα.....για τέτοια είμαι μέσα και χωρίς φαί....Κων/νε κάνε το κονεδάκια σου και εμείς θα σε βγάλουμε ασπροπρόσωπο....

thanasis134
14-05-05, 16:42
Το croma δεν με τρέλλανε εξωτερικά αλλά έχει πολυ ωραίο εσωτερικό ρε παιδιά!Απο επιδόσεις, οι Ιταλοί μαλακιστήκαν και πάλι δεν θα πουλήσει πολυ!
Κάλα δεν μπορούσαν τόσο καιρό να βγάζουν το stilo το 1.8 με 140 άλογα και όχι με 133?Τι να πω....!!!

sakiss
14-05-05, 17:29
http://www.km77.com/marcas/fiat/2005/croma/gama/gra/36.jpg

ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ
15-05-05, 19:44
απο οτι αινεται θα εχει καλη ποιοτητα το συγκεκριμενο αυτοκινητο...θα ειναι πολυ καλο....να το δουμε και απο κοντα και πως θα το αντιμετωπισουν οι ελληνες.......